I have an issue where "Bot Lab Secrets Quest" won`t trigger. I do not know how many days it takes but I have tried for 15 in game days straight. I do not use any mods and I used a clean folder.
ps. the way I tried it was: enter hallway 1 -> back to room -> skip time...(repeat) (when 12:00 skip day)
I assume the issue is a difference in python versions between my Mac and the Mac you tested on, or a permissions issue as alluded to, however the multiverse pod did not generate a json, and generated an exception as follows (the multiverse pod was still in my inventory, but the items are gone, so I will reload):
I’m sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.
While running game code:
File “game/03_GAME.rpy”, line 58, in script call
call navigate() from _call_navigate
File “game/500_navigator/510_navigate_ship.rpy”, line 391, in script call
call use_item(_return[1], useItem) from _call_use_item
File “game/600_interact/600_interact_room.rpy”, line 17, in script call
call multiverse_manager() from _call_multiverse_manager_1
File “game/650_trading/650_cargo.rpy”, line 351, in script
python:
File “game/650_trading/650_cargo.rpy”, line 352, in <module>
with open(config.gamedir + “/multiverse_pod.json”, “w”) as f:
IOError: [Errno 30] Read-only file system: u’/private/var/folders/mw/yrrc29fd5sg72b7hrkg7hxg80000gn/T/AppTranslocation/E26CC3E5-FC43-4033-A0B7-C4F14B796AAD/d/SpaceJourneyX.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/game/multiverse_pod.json’
– Full Traceback ————————————————————
Full traceback:
File “game/03_GAME.rpy”, line 58, in script call
call navigate() from _call_navigate
File “game/500_navigator/510_navigate_ship.rpy”, line 391, in script call
call use_item(_return[1], useItem) from _call_use_item
File “game/600_interact/600_interact_room.rpy”, line 17, in script call
call multiverse_manager() from _call_multiverse_manager_1
File “game/650_trading/650_cargo.rpy”, line 351, in script
python:
File “/private/var/folders/mw/yrrc29fd5sg72b7hrkg7hxg80000gn/T/AppTranslocation/E26CC3E5-FC43-4033-A0B7-C4F14B796AAD/d/SpaceJourneyX.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/ast.py”, line 928, in execute
renpy.python.py_exec_bytecode(self.code.bytecode, self.hide, store=self.store)
File “/private/var/folders/mw/yrrc29fd5sg72b7hrkg7hxg80000gn/T/AppTranslocation/E26CC3E5-FC43-4033-A0B7-C4F14B796AAD/d/SpaceJourneyX.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/python.py”, line 2245, in py_exec_bytecode
exec(bytecode, globals, locals)
File “game/650_trading/650_cargo.rpy”, line 352, in <module>
with open(config.gamedir + “/multiverse_pod.json”, “w”) as f:
File “/private/var/folders/mw/yrrc29fd5sg72b7hrkg7hxg80000gn/T/AppTranslocation/E26CC3E5-FC43-4033-A0B7-C4F14B796AAD/d/SpaceJourneyX.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/compat/init.py”, line 94, in compat_open
return python_open(*args, **kwargs)
IOError: [Errno 30] Read-only file system: u’/private/var/folders/mw/yrrc29fd5sg72b7hrkg7hxg80000gn/T/AppTranslocation/E26CC3E5-FC43-4033-A0B7-C4F14B796AAD/d/SpaceJourneyX.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/game/multiverse_pod.json’
Darwin-19.6.0-x86_64-i386-64bit
Ren’Py 7.4.11.2266
Space Journey X 040_c1
Your suggestion to move the application to the desktop removes the error of when using the device to store the save. However, a json is not created either on the desktop, or the location of the save files in the RenPy directory (subdirectory of the Library)
So, it seems I will have to restart from scratch when I have the patience.
The json is in the folder named "game" inside the game folder (one level "above" saves folder). You might have to use right click "show package contents" on the app file to get there. I know, that is bad design to write inside the app but I couldn't figure out to access game library / save paths on OSX properly yet... Will fix that in future and relocate it to the saves folder
Out of curiosity, what was the motivation for setting it up this way in the first place, as opposed to allowing continuity of saves between versions, much like other RenPy games?
With unfinished design (procedural hierarchy of modules, call sequence, ...) of the game I cannot solve the "continuity of process" problem for renpy saves and resumes, so the pod is a kind of data continuity crutch. I took your hint and in V0.6. at saved the multiverse pod file in the generic save game path, so it is automatically found be new versions and eliminates access issues.
It seems odd that the write permissions to ones own app would error out if in a directory, but work if in the Desktop directory. Sound like there is a bug somewhere in the callstack.
In V0.5, I happened to accept two missions at different times while both are active at the distance 50 point. When the first mission came due, I tried to use the location but it said there was nothing to do.
The distance point. Sorry, I think it was the 100.
I first succeeded in a mission in the large asteroids, then accepted one mission at the point. While that was active, I accepted a second one.
When the first came due, I couldn’t collect. When the second came due, I couldn’t collect it either.
Does the game allow you to sell items required for missions? If so, that is the likely cause. It prevents sell all, but I had cargo of the same type, so I sold individual amounts.
The Nav points are still on the map after fail, is this as designed?
What helped one other used with the same issue is to drag the game app to the desktop and then try it from there. (better and more safe than nuking whole folders with chmod...)
I develop the game on: Darwin Kernel Version 21.6.0 / RELEASE_ARM64_T6000 arm64 arm
Thanks for info. Quest only triggers if you have the parts in the lab and unpacking bot crates is not possible before Nimhe joins. How did you get bot parts prior to Nimhe joining?
Fantastic game, quite addictive to play. General question (for anyone), I'm on day 55 and V0.5 and still have not unlocked the pirate base location, what am I missing?
Hmmm, I develop the entire Game on OSX 12.6. No issues, no special access right required, ...
There is only only OSX issue I am aware of and that is a file access rights issue with the multiverse pod (can be tentatively solved by moving the game app on the desktop and running it there).
It happened on a startup of an initial new game (no save) V04. Ignoring the call stacks 3x, nothing seems amiss, other than not being able to ever buy shields or weapons, which I assume will come with V05 combat.
That is peculiar. There are three main causes of issues (a) use of an old incompatible save (b) overwrite install into a previous version folder (c) mod use (like URM) If you have a text postable dump I'll have a look.
Combat is not implemented in V0.4. You could also wait for V0.5, which will be publicly released around 15.05.
Also I found a couple of behaviours that didn't match the walkthrough, but it seems I can't get the spoiler markup html to work in comments. (And my discord is not linked to a phone, so I cannot use that markup there)
Not sure whether you refer to the actual Ylyee quest to trigger (visit bar at 15:00 after 10 days or so in V0.5). If you refer to the multivaerse pod save not working and are on a Mac, move the.app to the desktop and play from there.
If your issues are with V0.4, I recommend to restart with V0.5, released yesterday. That might help.
Hello yv0751, cool little game you got here so far. I remember playing The Princess in the Tower a while back which was a fun little diversion.
I'm also glad to see that you've improved a bit from your last game. Great job!
I like the models you're using and I'm assuming you created them yourself (If so good stuff); However I really feel like your in-game animations could do with some polishing. Granted I'm unsure how Renpy handles animations as I'm unfamiliar with the engine, but I really feel like the limited animations are holding this game back (I felt similarly with Princess in the Tower). Are the animations freeze frame in engine (like a flip book kind of deal) or are they key-framed to specific triggers? Also what program are you using to generate the animations? Sorry I know a lot of questions.
Outside of that I like the game play loop you've built into the game. Its not tedious, encourages exploration, and is paced in a sensible manner. I'm looking forward to seeing how this one turns out. Keep up the good work :)
The animations are six frame symmetrically looped freeze frames, which for me are a good compromise between effort, memory and effect. Animations are a time sink but I know some players can't do without, so I added them.
In general, I rather spend my effort on the gameplay and have to aim for a balance here with the available time.
Sounds perfectly reasonable to me. From my own experience (with different game engines) optimization can be a real slog, and in terms of games, paramount to achieving an ideal performance for the player's system. To me it sounds like real time inverse kinematics aren't possible in engine, or if they are, they're so resource intensive that adding them would bloat the size of the game. To be honest a lot of games made in Renpy seem to suffer from file size creep as they're developed. I appreciate that you have taken this into consideration for the players.
I agree with you Ein, an extra frame on the blowjob/handjob animation would improve the scenes immensely. Still loving the game so far, the characters and gameplay loop is fun even in this early stage. This is amongst my top projects that I am keeping my eye on. Looking forward to the exhibition mechanics and the hacker girl's storyline and leads immensely.
Regarding android, I have no plans to migrate it before it is finished (as it would mean changing all my keymappings, etc.) as I have no way of testing that currently.
Not played it yet. But I wanted to point out, that the hero looks like a girl in the promotional shot. The one where he holds the gun up and looks to the side.
Just saying. I was impressed by the goblin game and had the space game on my list for a while and always thought, that girl on the left is not as cute as the others.... ;-)
I think you accidentally posted the link to a local file on your machine.
Take the save file, upload it to any file sharing site (mega, gdrive, workupload,...) create the sharing link there and send me that link, then I can dl it.
the mining laser - although announced to having been delivered to my CB doesnt show up. neither in the CB nor in the EN department. how am i supposed to install it?!
since you made two games then one doubt what if you make a nudist beach/resort game involving naked women in the nudist beach and you have sex with them can you make that?
Something is _badly_ wrong. Shouldn't take more than day 15 to finish v2 and fully load out ship
There is one major bug (see release post or quote below fir workaround). Don't continue with your game, it's corrupted I assume. Would be great if you can post a save here.
Space events should start at day 3.
=======
CR-0057 / V0.3 / Bug / Decline first star map offer soft locks mining task trigger (workaround: try to buy map _initially_ at first meet!)
I tried starting a new game and avoiding even going to the space station until I had enough money. I think it was around day 28 and still no space events happened, I had not gone on the space station at that point.
One question; does 'alien' women mean more 'exotic' looking women (green/blue/tentacle hair etc), or will they always be 'human' in appearance? Asking for a friend who's not from around these parts ;)
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I have an issue where "Bot Lab Secrets Quest" won`t trigger.
I do not know how many days it takes but I have tried for 15 in game days straight.
I do not use any mods and I used a clean folder.
ps. the way I tried it was: enter hallway 1 -> back to room -> skip time...(repeat) (when 12:00 skip day)
There's a weird counter / trigger for that in V0.5.
Have sex twice with Type-J bot in your room then walk into the hallway.Never thought people wouldn't try that twice an therefore never trigger it.
thanks I got it working now.
I assume the issue is a difference in python versions between my Mac and the Mac you tested on, or a permissions issue as alluded to, however the multiverse pod did not generate a json, and generated an exception as follows (the multiverse pod was still in my inventory, but the items are gone, so I will reload):
I’m sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.
While running game code: File “game/03_GAME.rpy”, line 58, in script call call navigate() from _call_navigate File “game/500_navigator/510_navigate_ship.rpy”, line 391, in script call call use_item(_return[1], useItem) from _call_use_item File “game/600_interact/600_interact_room.rpy”, line 17, in script call call multiverse_manager() from _call_multiverse_manager_1 File “game/650_trading/650_cargo.rpy”, line 351, in script python: File “game/650_trading/650_cargo.rpy”, line 352, in <module> with open(config.gamedir + “/multiverse_pod.json”, “w”) as f: IOError: [Errno 30] Read-only file system: u’/private/var/folders/mw/yrrc29fd5sg72b7hrkg7hxg80000gn/T/AppTranslocation/E26CC3E5-FC43-4033-A0B7-C4F14B796AAD/d/SpaceJourneyX.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/game/multiverse_pod.json’
– Full Traceback ————————————————————
Full traceback: File “game/03_GAME.rpy”, line 58, in script call call navigate() from _call_navigate File “game/500_navigator/510_navigate_ship.rpy”, line 391, in script call call use_item(_return[1], useItem) from _call_use_item File “game/600_interact/600_interact_room.rpy”, line 17, in script call call multiverse_manager() from _call_multiverse_manager_1 File “game/650_trading/650_cargo.rpy”, line 351, in script python: File “/private/var/folders/mw/yrrc29fd5sg72b7hrkg7hxg80000gn/T/AppTranslocation/E26CC3E5-FC43-4033-A0B7-C4F14B796AAD/d/SpaceJourneyX.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/ast.py”, line 928, in execute renpy.python.py_exec_bytecode(self.code.bytecode, self.hide, store=self.store) File “/private/var/folders/mw/yrrc29fd5sg72b7hrkg7hxg80000gn/T/AppTranslocation/E26CC3E5-FC43-4033-A0B7-C4F14B796AAD/d/SpaceJourneyX.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/python.py”, line 2245, in py_exec_bytecode exec(bytecode, globals, locals) File “game/650_trading/650_cargo.rpy”, line 352, in <module> with open(config.gamedir + “/multiverse_pod.json”, “w”) as f: File “/private/var/folders/mw/yrrc29fd5sg72b7hrkg7hxg80000gn/T/AppTranslocation/E26CC3E5-FC43-4033-A0B7-C4F14B796AAD/d/SpaceJourneyX.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/compat/init.py”, line 94, in compat_open return python_open(*args, **kwargs) IOError: [Errno 30] Read-only file system: u’/private/var/folders/mw/yrrc29fd5sg72b7hrkg7hxg80000gn/T/AppTranslocation/E26CC3E5-FC43-4033-A0B7-C4F14B796AAD/d/SpaceJourneyX.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/game/multiverse_pod.json’
Darwin-19.6.0-x86_64-i386-64bit Ren’Py 7.4.11.2266 Space Journey X 040_c1
Your suggestion to move the application to the desktop removes the error of when using the device to store the save. However, a json is not created either on the desktop, or the location of the save files in the RenPy directory (subdirectory of the Library)
So, it seems I will have to restart from scratch when I have the patience.
The json is in the folder named "game" inside the game folder (one level "above" saves folder). You might have to use right click "show package contents" on the app file to get there.
I know, that is bad design to write inside the app but I couldn't figure out to access game library / save paths on OSX properly yet...
Will fix that in future and relocate it to the saves folder
Oh, I see it now, thanks.
Out of curiosity, what was the motivation for setting it up this way in the first place, as opposed to allowing continuity of saves between versions, much like other RenPy games?
With unfinished design (procedural hierarchy of modules, call sequence, ...) of the game I cannot solve the "continuity of process" problem for renpy saves and resumes, so the pod is a kind of data continuity crutch.
I took your hint and in V0.6. at saved the multiverse pod file in the generic save game path, so it is automatically found be new versions and eliminates access issues.
It seems odd that the write permissions to ones own app would error out if in a directory, but work if in the Desktop directory. Sound like there is a bug somewhere in the callstack.
I was lazy in just dumping it into the app location on OSX. Bad practice, but Win usually doesnt care.
Fixed with V0.6 (see post above)
In V0.5, I happened to accept two missions at different times while both are active at the distance 50 point. When the first mission came due, I tried to use the location but it said there was nothing to do.
Never happened before.
>> Mixup? lltari? -> Thats the Planet, not the station.
>> Wrong stuff loaded? Not enough loaded for full delivery?
>> Wrong nav point?
>> Can't think of any other reason...
>> Maybe load both mission items and try (the it would be a bug indeed)?
Otherwise: Just fail the mission and it will purge.
The distance point. Sorry, I think it was the 100. I first succeeded in a mission in the large asteroids, then accepted one mission at the point. While that was active, I accepted a second one.
When the first came due, I couldn’t collect. When the second came due, I couldn’t collect it either.
Does the game allow you to sell items required for missions? If so, that is the likely cause. It prevents sell all, but I had cargo of the same type, so I sold individual amounts.
The Nav points are still on the map after fail, is this as designed?
What helped one other used with the same issue is to drag the game app to the desktop and then try it from there.
(better and more safe than nuking whole folders with chmod...)
I develop the game on: Darwin Kernel Version 21.6.0 / RELEASE_ARM64_T6000 arm64 arm
Slight glitch if you get bot parts early on you get glitch were you get vannis parts mission without youre second crew member
Thanks for info. Quest only triggers if you have the parts in the lab and unpacking bot crates is not possible before Nimhe joins. How did you get bot parts prior to Nimhe joining?
If i remember i got it by mining
If i remember i got it by mining dotn remember much cause i looked in ther and i had it i was confused so i used it
Fantastic game, quite addictive to play. General question (for anyone), I'm on day 55 and V0.5 and still have not unlocked the pirate base location, what am I missing?
V0.5 has not been released here on itch.io.
If you're a patron, there's patreon support discord or you can msg me in patreon directly. I'll be glad to help.
I am, I just felt I've bothered you so much already. I'll msg you. Thank you.
Note that on MacOS 10.15.6 the game has 3 non-fatal exceptions starting V0.4.
Hmmm, I develop the entire Game on OSX 12.6. No issues, no special access right required, ...
There is only only OSX issue I am aware of and that is a file access rights issue with the multiverse pod (can be tentatively solved by moving the game app on the desktop and running it there).
Let me know when the issues happen.
It happened on a startup of an initial new game (no save) V04. Ignoring the call stacks 3x, nothing seems amiss, other than not being able to ever buy shields or weapons, which I assume will come with V05 combat.
That is peculiar. There are three main causes of issues
(a) use of an old incompatible save
(b) overwrite install into a previous version folder
(c) mod use (like URM)
If you have a text postable dump I'll have a look.
Combat is not implemented in V0.4. You could also wait for V0.5, which will be publicly released around 15.05.
Unfortunately those are not the case.
Also I found a couple of behaviours that didn't match the walkthrough, but it seems I can't get the spoiler markup html to work in comments. (And my discord is not linked to a phone, so I cannot use that markup there)
Not sure whether you refer to the actual Ylyee quest to trigger (visit bar at 15:00 after 10 days or so in V0.5).
If you refer to the multivaerse pod save not working and are on a Mac, move the.app to the desktop and play from there.
If your issues are with V0.4, I recommend to restart with V0.5, released yesterday. That might help.
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Hello yv0751, cool little game you got here so far. I remember playing The Princess in the Tower a while back which was a fun little diversion.
I'm also glad to see that you've improved a bit from your last game. Great job!
I like the models you're using and I'm assuming you created them yourself (If so good stuff); However I really feel like your in-game animations could do with some polishing. Granted I'm unsure how Renpy handles animations as I'm unfamiliar with the engine, but I really feel like the limited animations are holding this game back (I felt similarly with Princess in the Tower). Are the animations freeze frame in engine (like a flip book kind of deal) or are they key-framed to specific triggers? Also what program are you using to generate the animations? Sorry I know a lot of questions.
Outside of that I like the game play loop you've built into the game. Its not tedious, encourages exploration, and is paced in a sensible manner. I'm looking forward to seeing how this one turns out. Keep up the good work :)
Glad that you enjoyed the game so far.
The animations are six frame symmetrically looped freeze frames, which for me are a good compromise between effort, memory and effect. Animations are a time sink but I know some players can't do without, so I added them.
In general, I rather spend my effort on the gameplay and have to aim for a balance here with the available time.
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Sounds perfectly reasonable to me. From my own experience (with different game engines) optimization can be a real slog, and in terms of games, paramount to achieving an ideal performance for the player's system. To me it sounds like real time inverse kinematics aren't possible in engine, or if they are, they're so resource intensive that adding them would bloat the size of the game. To be honest a lot of games made in Renpy seem to suffer from file size creep as they're developed. I appreciate that you have taken this into consideration for the players.
Thanks for answering my question. :)
I agree with you Ein, an extra frame on the blowjob/handjob animation would improve the scenes immensely. Still loving the game so far, the characters and gameplay loop is fun even in this early stage. This is amongst my top projects that I am keeping my eye on. Looking forward to the exhibition mechanics and the hacker girl's storyline and leads immensely.
nice game loving it keep up the good work
How does one end up with the title of "Dangerous"? I've only been helpful (57 repair jobs) and not bribed at all.
That rating isn't fully developed in V0.4. It is linked to EXP, which isn't properly awarded and balanced yet. Please disregard.
ah. understood
Is there an discord server i would love to join and also any plan for android versions
There is one discord channel, which is (verified members) public (https://discord.com/channels/982330894436171778/1094342250605068489). Most channels are patreon only.
Regarding android, I have no plans to migrate it before it is finished (as it would mean changing all my keymappings, etc.) as I have no way of testing that currently.
Not played it yet. But I wanted to point out, that the hero looks like a girl in the promotional shot. The one where he holds the gun up and looks to the side.
Not that it were bad, but, no, he is not a girl. No mega-Chad either. ;)
Just a young adult male with a stylized face.
Just saying. I was impressed by the goblin game and had the space game on my list for a while and always thought, that girl on the left is not as cute as the others.... ;-)
the screen went black other then what i can interact with , is the save corupted or will it fix itself if i keep playing?
I assume the following:
a.) You installed the game in a fresh folder
b.) You did not use an incompatible (=old version) save
c.) You did not use a compressed, unofficially ported or otherwise modded version
If not, observe a to c and try again. Sounds like b to me.
Otherwise, assuming sth else is corrupted (unlikely) reinstall and retry.
If the issue is consistently reproducible and a to c does _not_ apply, I would be interested in the save game (send me a link)
/home/fish/.config/itch/apps/space-journey-x/SpaceJourneyX-030_A-pc/game/saves/1-3-LT1.save
did i do this right?
I think you accidentally posted the link to a local file on your machine.
Take the save file, upload it to any file sharing site (mega, gdrive, workupload,...) create the sharing link there and send me that link, then I can dl it.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
the mining laser - although announced to having been delivered to my CB doesnt show up. neither in the CB nor in the EN department. how am i supposed to install it?!
there is a tab "subsys" in the cargo bay. You should find it in there. Just press button install next to it.
And once you installed it, go to EN, where you can toggle to it in the EN menu with cursor left / right in order to configure it
thanks. wouldn't have found it on my own - it didn't look as if it was a tab to me...
since you made two games then one doubt what if you make a nudist beach/resort game involving naked women in the nudist beach and you have sex with them can you make that?
I just started with Space Journey, so it will be a time until I can think about the next one ;)
Good luck with that and when you are done with it try the nudist game one
am i still being soft locked by the map, i think i folowed the work around but i have bought the map and still have the task telling me to buy it
You have to give it to tris (select in inventory snd use on her)
I got to day 60 and have not had a single space event, nor been able to buy any engine parts to progress. Am I missing something
Something is _badly_ wrong. Shouldn't take more than day 15 to finish v2 and fully load out ship
There is one major bug (see release post or quote below fir workaround). Don't continue with your game, it's corrupted I assume. Would be great if you can post a save here.
Space events should start at day 3.
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I tried starting a new game and avoiding even going to the space station until I had enough money. I think it was around day 28 and still no space events happened, I had not gone on the space station at that point.
Just go there on day one, attempt to buy the map, be rejected and return to ship -> quest triggers
One question; does 'alien' women mean more 'exotic' looking women (green/blue/tentacle hair etc), or will they always be 'human' in appearance? Asking for a friend who's not from around these parts ;)
For the initial chars it is humanoid (e.g. T'Ris is Valkoran, sth like Vulcan, human, ...)
Later there will be humanoid characters with e.g. blue skin and slighly exotic facial features etc. Basically like star trek level of alien.
There won't be full on xenomorphs, slime creatures etc.
Looking forward to them. Thanks.
Sad day
Love the game so far! couple of questions if that's ok.
1: Can T'ris' (and the other character's) stats be raised by repetition or will they have set instances of stat growth?
2: Any chance of a counter of how often it's been since last we ejac'd? I keep loosing track.
Again, really enjoying the game, I was just curious.
Glad you like the game.
Stats system will be vastly expanded in new versions. Stats can be raised, but are capped per action.
As to the MC, in V03 he is in the stats screen and has also a counter.
If you are familiar with the command line, you can also use GAME.mc.tally in V0.2 to bring up some stats
Thank you for the prompt reply! This is exactly the info I was looking for! T'ris has a SLU stat of 3, is that her max for the end of V02?
3 SLU is max in V0.2
Feels like a good start. Keep it up.
pretty nice.
Fun stuff man, can't wait for future updates!
Glad you like it.
Updates will be in roughly monthly intervals, with a few weeks lead time on patreon.
Android version ??
Unfortunately I have no hardware to test it on. I am keeping UI interactions flexible though, so maybe later i can convert it.